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Alex the Great · Feb 25, 2008, 01:40 AM // 01:40

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

Sadly, that's true. Any game has better economy AND requires more skill than GW PvE - WoW, Diablo 2, Ragnarok Online, Dungeon Runners, you name it.

i don't know about easyier pve, ever tried HM dungeons?!?

Magikarp · Feb 25, 2008, 01:41 AM // 01:41

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Originally Posted by Terraban

No, it is called a video game.

Not a Work Simulator.

you worked for the money to buy the game, because the game isnt free.

if you play professional football, you train for months because in order to win, you have to work, because winning isnt free.

if you want a car, you dont steal it, because then you're a thief, therefore you work for it.

last time i checked, nothing comes for free. you call this a game, fine, but if everyone got everything automatically, no one would play, because there would one, be no challenge, and two, be no seperation in those that take it more seriously, or competitivly, than those that are casual, or even totally in the dark about the game.

get real.

RenegadeFiend · Feb 25, 2008, 01:44 AM // 01:44

The Runescape Economy is far from good. Even though I barely play now, I know about the new updates with the grand exchange and Jagex has messed over every items price in the entire game.

and I don't know how you can say guild wars economy is bad stating that one thing can be so cheap and another so much. Where in Runescape, you can pay 555M (which is years of farming) for an item and as low as 3k for other stuff. I would not call this a good market.

Alex the Great · Feb 25, 2008, 01:45 AM // 01:45

o, ya, and runescape now sucks more than it used to cause they took away pking and made a anti scam trading thing.

my brother plays it ok!!!

{IceFire} · Feb 25, 2008, 01:57 AM // 01:57

Runescape sucks, so it doesn't matter.

Terraban · Feb 25, 2008, 02:05 AM // 02:05

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Originally Posted by Magikarp

you worked for the money to buy the game, because the game isnt free.

if you play professional football, you train for months because in order to win, you have to work, because winning isnt free.

if you want a car, you dont steal it, because then you're a thief, therefore you work for it.

last time i checked, nothing comes for free. you call this a game, fine, but if everyone got everything automatically, no one would play, because there would one, be no challenge, and two, be no seperation in those that take it more seriously, or competitivly, than those that are casual, or even totally in the dark about the game.

get real.

Huh?

You play a game to have fun, that is why you buy it.
You do not buy a game to do tedious work that you do not like.

Changing a game into work is stupid. Almost as bad as your analogies. Seriously dude, they are BAD.

UnKn0wN415 · Feb 25, 2008, 02:16 AM // 02:16

the economy is fine the way it is in my view...

dont know how people are saying this, is it because of the rare skins for are high price?? I dont get it I mean at the end of the day skins will end up having the same mods as one you can buy for cheaper price...

ogre_jd · Feb 25, 2008, 02:44 AM // 02:44

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Originally Posted by UnKn0wN415

the economy is fine the way it is in my view...

dont know how people are saying this, is it because of the rare skins for are high price?? I dont get it I mean at the end of the day skins will end up having the same mods as one you can buy for cheaper price...

And that's what annoys many people complaining about the economy, I'll bet: no way to get rich by hoarding things people need in order to compete at anything beyond the most basic levels... (which also, of course, would have the side-effect of cutting down on the competition to their own characters when it comes to PvP)

masta_yoda · Feb 25, 2008, 03:12 AM // 03:12

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Originally Posted by garethporlest18

Because Runescape requires more skill of course.

wrong runescape is autopilot fighting

Dr Imperial · Feb 25, 2008, 03:26 AM // 03:26

Wanna know why the GW economy is bad?

Because too many people like all of us here are spending so much time whining about GW's problems when you could be trading/farming.

Really, with all due respect, there are too many whiners. Sit down for an hour or two - farm - earn money.

Cheers.

Oh and btw, Runescape is the worst MMO to ever come across the internet, and doesn't even deserve to be compared to GW. So don't.

CyberNigma · Feb 25, 2008, 03:27 AM // 03:27

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Originally Posted by masta_yoda

wrong runescape is autopilot fighting

not directed at you per se, but you bring up a point..

I think if you want to play a computer game about skill, you can either play a strategy game (turn-based so you can think it out), or you can go and play a game where you actually have to aim at your targets - Tabula Rasa is close, and any FPS. The strategy games actually take into account economy as well.

The outside joke about GW is you don't even have to run to your targets. You can literally select a target and let the computer run to it for you (well when it doesn't get stuck). I don't mind that, but don't think there's a lot more skill involved. Even WoW is not an aiming game, you merely have to face your opponent.

EDIT: In fact, you can download America's Army without payment.

Darksun · Feb 25, 2008, 03:36 AM // 03:36

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Originally Posted by fanatic 's faith

It's a fact that this f2p game has a better economy then guildwars ATM

You can say anything is a fact online and someone will be dumb enough to believe it.

garethporlest18 · Feb 25, 2008, 03:39 AM // 03:39

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Originally Posted by masta_yoda

wrong runescape is autopilot fighting

I was being sarcastic. But the mobs in GW are seriously stupid as all get out.

The Meth · Feb 25, 2008, 03:49 AM // 03:49

Guild wars has a "bad economy", as you say, because it doesn't need an economy at all.

If right this instant all player trading was disabled, a completely new player could play just fine and get max armor and weapons very easily during the course of normal gameplay with little or no grind. Any use of in game trading is purely optional.

maraxusofk · Feb 25, 2008, 04:13 AM // 04:13

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Originally Posted by fanatic 's faith

WRONG. The gw economy is like this. 0.01% (or less) can affort fow/... due to early start of playing/now powertrading because they have much mony.
some 50% has less then 50plat most of the time the other people can get much mony, but still won't be able to get anywhere near the 0.01% wich have stacks of ectos/armbraces/... Thats wrong.

and runescape doesnt? i quit the game ALONG time ago and i started in like 1997. i had full party hats which according to ppl that still play is like the panda equivalent of runescape. early start in any game = gg. (shortly after i realized though i sold the account for 300 usd)

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Originally Posted by Terraban

They were that high when I started trying to make mine...

Remember making a 55 necro to save up for monk runes which were around 65-70k each, which was when they started getting cheaper.

Was on American servers, before they combined them all.

Was around August 2005 I think.

Edit: And I agree that they were far from needed, but they were that high.

um i played since may 05 and it never reached that high. sup absorb reached 100k each, and the highest other sup runes reached were around 20-35. the highest merchant items during that time were sigils, sup vigors fluctuating at around 40k, and sup monk runes.

Crom The Pale · Feb 25, 2008, 04:20 AM // 04:20

Keep in mind that GW is a very evolving game, it is far from static and that makes the market very volitile.

Changes not just to skills, but new skins, new types of mods for items and perfect salvage kits, changes to where items drop and the additions of Green items and end of game items/BMP items.

All of this just added to an echonomy that was shaky at the best of times due to the problem of how to unload items you no longer wanted. People could not sell items to merchents, or rather could not get real value from doing so, therefore they flooded the market with all sorts of items of every possible description. When GW started you could play for over a month without ever having a max item drop for you, not because they were rare but because they dropped late in the game. Now you can get them for practically nothing at the very first city you can access storage from, via another char or people that will sell max items for 100g wich is double what the merchants offer.

I have great hopes that GW2 will have a much more stable echonomy and at the same time allow for some flexibility.

bam23 · Feb 25, 2008, 04:34 AM // 04:34

http://www.investorwords.com/2736/law_of_supply.html

What's wrong with the economy?

flyinhigh · Feb 25, 2008, 04:45 AM // 04:45

what constitutes a "bad economy" personally i think GW has a great economy, everything is cheap, i can get almost anything i want for very little cash, and its not hard to make cash. i think that the people that are QQ'ing about a bad economy are just sore about not being able to jack their prices up. if you want a expensive economy, go play Wow, or eve. leave the cheap economy to GW. leave it alone its fine.

Div · Feb 25, 2008, 04:48 AM // 04:48

The OP's definition of having a "better economy" is to make farming gold easier, apparently. That's a bad definition.

Tiny Killer · Feb 25, 2008, 04:51 AM // 04:51

If the economy is so bad, I wonder why I never run out of money. I spend what I have rather freely and there always seems to be more of it available. If having the money to always get what I need is the result of a poor economy, I am in full favor of a poor economy.